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Post by 4pygmies on Jul 10, 2007 12:19:38 GMT 1
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Post by madonplants on Jul 10, 2007 12:25:24 GMT 1
It's OK! I've just had a long conversation with the man in charge of the thick pillocks. He has arranged for the plug plants to be replaced, he's apologised profusely for the groundsman (said he's not very bright and has now been told that he is not going to schools anymore) and has arranged to meet me in September at school to walk round with me and work out a programme that will help us rather than hinder us. He was very interested in my plans and says his department might be able to help as well with stuff like leaf bins. I call that a good result! About time too! That IS a result, well done, 4P!! ;D Keith |
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Post by 4pygmies on Jul 10, 2007 14:59:58 GMT 1
I felt sooo GREAT when I'd put the phone down! It will be nice to have the bods in the grounds work department working with us. He sounded quite keen to help - shocked too that anyone was doing anything I think voluntarily!
What a nice man. Not a thick pillock at all.
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Post by debbiem on Jul 12, 2007 9:46:01 GMT 1
Result, at last!  Well done 4P for sticking to your guns(and not using them on the thick pillocks).  |
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Post by 4pygmies on Jul 12, 2007 16:29:15 GMT 1
Why are you appearing as a guest, Debbie? I don't understand........
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Post by sweetleaf on Jul 12, 2007 19:06:12 GMT 1
Why are you appearing as a guest, Debbie? I don't understand........ Nor me! Im going to email her, It may be that bug that kicked me out remember that? |
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jul 13, 2007 21:45:58 GMT 1
AT LAST....some reason amidst the blustering. I do hope that this chap will keep his word...I reckon you need to get it all in writing? then he can't bluster his way out of it |
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Post by sweetleaf on Jul 13, 2007 21:49:16 GMT 1
He didnt! There was £150 worth of plug plants waiting at the school the other day! Dont know why its not on this thread though, prolly forgot, good though isnt it?
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Post by madonplants on Jul 16, 2007 11:10:40 GMT 1
He didnt! There was £150 worth of plug plants waiting at the school the other day! Dont know why its not on this thread though, prolly forgot, good though isnt it? Have they been planted yet, 4P? Were they what you wanted? How are the ponds looking? Keith |
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Post by 4pygmies on Aug 13, 2007 10:37:36 GMT 1
I've just driven past smallest's school and noticed a big digger and a small gaggle of people where the gardening work is being done...so I drove in. The Head, her husband and the Chairman of the Governors are all there completely rearranging all my plans without even consulting me! The GH is now being moved (again) to under the shade of a bloody tree, the hard landscaping is all being changed, no room for a herb garden, and the manky shrubs I wanted to remove and replace with something slightly more attractive and wildlife friendly have to stay.......when I started to give my point of view I was totally ignored and told by the Governor that the GH IS going there and the kids will just have to make the best of the poor access.........
GRRRRRRRR!!!!
What is with me? Am I sooo nondescript that everyone thinks what I say is irrelevant? I have secured £5000, for crying out loud, which is supposed to be for making the grounds wildlife friendly and to encourage the childrens interest in gardening and wildlife but I am having to fight for everything! No one LISTENS to me!!
We might as well put the GH in its original spot over the other side of the school where it's screened and not in anyone's way. Then it's close to where the compost bins are, close the sheds where all the equipment is stored and not in the shade......
Is it me? I don't think I'm stupid. I think I know as much but probably more than most of the people at school about gardening and wildlfe. I certainly know as much about children as most of them. I have experience. I have ideas. And I WAS full of enthusiasm. I feel like giving the whole bloody thing up and letting someone else take all this grief. I won't be able to grow anything with the kids if they won't let me plan it sensibly. I am FED UP!
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Post by Sleepy on Aug 13, 2007 10:46:05 GMT 1
I've just driven past smallest's school and noticed a big digger and a small gaggle of people where the gardening work is being done...so I drove in. The Head, her husband and the Chairman of the Governors are all there completely rearranging all my plans without even consulting me! The GH is now being moved (again) to under the shade of a bloody tree, the hard landscaping is all being changed, no room for a herb garden, and the manky shrub I wanted to remove and replace with something dlightly more attractive and wildlife friendly have to stay.......when I started to point my point of view I was totally ignored and told by the Governor that the GH IS going there andthe kids will just have to make the best of the poor access......... GRRRRRRRR!!!!What is with me? Am I sooo nondescript that everyone thinks ewhat I say is irelevant? I have secured £5000, for crying out loud, which is supposed to be for making the grounds wildlife friendly and to encourage the childrens interest in gardening and wildlife but I am having to fight for everything! No one LISTENS to me!! We might as well put the GH in its original spot over the other side of the school where it's screened and not in anyone's way. Then it's close to where the compost bins are, close the sheds where all the equipment is stored and not in the shade...... Is it me? I don't think I'm stupid. I think I know as much but probably more than most of the people at school about gardening and wildlfe. I certainly know as much about children as most of them. I have experience. I have ideas.And I WAS full of enthusiasm. I feel like giving the whole bloody thing up and letting someone else take all this grief. I won't be able to grow anything with the kids if they won't let me plan it sensibly. I am FED UP! I would was my hands of it and tell them they can make the mess they like without my involvement - but that's just me, and not necessarily the best way. |
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Post by Sleepy on Aug 13, 2007 10:47:40 GMT 1
I've just driven past smallest's school and noticed a big digger and a small gaggle of people where the gardening work is being done...so I drove in. The Head, her husband and the Chairman of the Governors are all there completely rearranging all my plans without even consulting me! The GH is now being moved (again) to under the shade of a bloody tree, the hard landscaping is all being changed, no room for a herb garden, and the manky shrub I wanted to remove and replace with something dlightly more attractive and wildlife friendly have to stay.......when I started to point my point of view I was totally ignored and told by the Governor that the GH IS going there andthe kids will just have to make the best of the poor access......... GRRRRRRRR!!!!What is with me? Am I sooo nondescript that everyone thinks ewhat I say is irelevant? I have secured £5000, for crying out loud, which is supposed to be for making the grounds wildlife friendly and to encourage the childrens interest in gardening and wildlife but I am having to fight for everything! No one LISTENS to me!! We might as well put the GH in its original spot over the other side of the school where it's screened and not in anyone's way. Then it's close to where the compost bins are, close the sheds where all the equipment is stored and not in the shade...... Is it me? I don't think I'm stupid. I think I know as much but probably more than most of the people at school about gardening and wildlfe. I certainly know as much about children as most of them. I have experience. I have ideas.And I WAS full of enthusiasm. I feel like giving the whole bloody thing up and letting someone else take all this grief. I won't be able to grow anything with the kids if they won't let me plan it sensibly. I am FED UP! I would was my hands of it and tell them they can make the mess they like without my involvement - but that's just me, and not necessarily the best way. Also, some individual has to be responsible for todays actions. Find out who it is and send the boys round! |
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Post by madonplants on Aug 13, 2007 10:47:59 GMT 1
Sorry to hear this 4P. Sounds like you are up against it again. What is their reasons for the move? What tree is the GH going under? Hopefully not a conker tree!!!  Keep with it and maybe they will see the error of their ways, eventually, and offer an apology!! Pigs might fly, I know! Why no herb garden, or are they worried about the kids getting stung by bees that they will obviously attract! If this is it, it's a poor excuse, but have heard it before! Keep trying to do your best, which is obviously more them all them put together!! Keith |
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Post by Sleepy on Aug 13, 2007 10:53:44 GMT 1
I would was my hands of it and tell them they can make the mess they like without my involvement - but that's just me, and not necessarily the best way. Also, some individual has to be responsible for todays actions. Find out who it is and send the boys round! After some thought a letter to your Head, with a copy to the BoG along the lines of: Thank you for allowing me to start with the creation of a wildlife garden area, and sorry that you and the Board of Governors have lost confidence in the direction we were going.
I wish you all the best with your future plans with the project. I will miss my involvement, but at least it will free up time to work on other wildlife projects I have planned at home.
Best regards
4Pygmies
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Post by emseypop on Aug 13, 2007 10:56:45 GMT 1
Your not stupid 4p, but your too nice, maybe its time to call their bluff?  Talk to them, sooner rather than later, it seem like they just wanted the funding and now they have the cash they're doing what they please with it. Sleepys letter is spot on, they can beg you to go back, on your terms, or you can spend more time in your own garden win/win......sort of  |
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Post by madonplants on Aug 13, 2007 11:00:16 GMT 1
Also, some individual has to be responsible for todays actions. Find out who it is and send the boys round! After some thought a letter to your Head, with a copy to the BoG along the lines of: Thank you for allowing me to start with the creation of a wildlife garden area, and sorry that you and the Board of Governors have lost confidence in the direction we were going.
I wish you all the best with your future plans with the project. I will miss my involvement, but at least it will free up time to work on other wildlife projects I have planned at home.
Best regards
4Pygmies
Teacher 'n' thingsBrilliant, Sleepy, word perfect. Do you have experience at these sort of letters, by any chance?  I think it would get a response, what sort, I don't know!! Keith |
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Post by mickthecactus on Aug 13, 2007 11:05:21 GMT 1
4P, I could cry for you.
Mx
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Post by sweetleaf on Aug 13, 2007 11:05:30 GMT 1
And dont forget to add your Garden design qualifications to that letter!
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Post by 4pygmies on Aug 13, 2007 11:08:36 GMT 1
I'm tempted............but I won't act in temper. I shall cogitate and maybe even come up with some different plans which may even be an improvement....I am just sooo cross with having to fight my corner all the time when it's MY idea anyway! (I don't sound like a megalomanic, do I? You can tell me.....) I've had a nice chat to our lovely Sweetie and am already imagining my ladies and I ripping out the manky shrubs in September.....hehehe......what can they do then? Sublety and some undercover guerilla gardening may be the way forward but I am saving Sleepy's letter, just in case. Thank you for caring, you lovely lot! What would I do without you.......? Prolly be found with my head exploded with rage somewhere behind the dipping ponds..... |
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Post by Sleepy on Aug 13, 2007 11:14:37 GMT 1
I'm tempted............but I won't act in temper. I shall cogitate and maybe even come up with some different plans which may even be an improvement....I am just sooo cross with having to fight my corner all the time when it's MY idea anyway! (I don't sound like a magalomanic, do I? You can tell me.....) [/IMG][/quote] You are short. Who has ever heard of a short megalomanic??? Well...... except for Hitler .... and Musselini.... ............................... .... and Napoleon |
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Post by Sleepy on Aug 13, 2007 11:16:33 GMT 1
I'm tempted............but I won't act in temper. I shall cogitate and maybe even come up with some different plans which may even be an improvement....I am just sooo cross with having to fight my corner all the time when it's MY idea anyway! (I don't sound like a magalomanic, do I? You can tell me.....) [/IMG][/quote] You are short. Who has ever heard of a short megalomanic??? Well...... except for Hitler .... and Musselini.... ............................... .... and Napoleon[/quote] Yep! Definite megalomanic tendencies! Do you find yourself muttering things like 'Today Shrimpton South Infant School Wildlife Garden. TOMORROW THE WORLD" ? |
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Post by 4pygmies on Aug 13, 2007 11:16:53 GMT 1
OMG! You're right......I'll get my hat and coat...that funny three cornered one.....and the coat with the dangly epaulettes...my favourite...
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Post by debbiem on Aug 13, 2007 13:06:35 GMT 1
What a complete bunch of blockheads! Why does the greenhouse have to go 'there'? Are all these rearrangements being done with the children in mind? Why the rearranging? I would be steaming with rage and would want blood but that's the hothead I am - not the best way to handle this, maybe! I think that if they're ignoring you now they won't pay any attention to a letter like Sleepy's either, which would work if you are dealing with sentient beings. I think it's Ofsted time...........
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Post by The witch on Aug 14, 2007 8:57:57 GMT 1
I've just driven past smallest's school and noticed a big digger and a small gaggle of people where the gardening work is being done...so I drove in. The Head, her husband and the Chairman of the Governors are all there completely rearranging all my plans without even consulting me! The GH is now being moved (again) to under the shade of a bloody tree, the hard landscaping is all being changed, no room for a herb garden, and the manky shrubs I wanted to remove and replace with something slightly more attractive and wildlife friendly have to stay.......when I started to give my point of view I was totally ignored and told by the Governor that the GH IS going there and the kids will just have to make the best of the poor access......... GRRRRRRRR!!!!What is with me? Am I sooo nondescript that everyone thinks what I say is irrelevant? I have secured £5000, for crying out loud, which is supposed to be for making the grounds wildlife friendly and to encourage the childrens interest in gardening and wildlife but I am having to fight for everything! No one LISTENS to me!! We might as well put the GH in its original spot over the other side of the school where it's screened and not in anyone's way. Then it's close to where the compost bins are, close the sheds where all the equipment is stored and not in the shade...... Is it me? I don't think I'm stupid. I think I know as much but probably more than most of the people at school about gardening and wildlfe. I certainly know as much about children as most of them. I have experience. I have ideas. And I WAS full of enthusiasm. I feel like giving the whole bloody thing up and letting someone else take all this grief. I won't be able to grow anything with the kids if they won't let me plan it sensibly. I am FED UP!  - I could cry for you  then feel very angry for you too  You need to speak to the parent governor ASAP to get some inside knowledge of what was discussed at the last governors meeting 4P. Let as many parents know as possible too, inform them of your long term plans for the area, then tell them what the governors have suggested/are going to do. Get them to write letters of complaint to the governors. Get some of the kids to write too |
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Post by emseypop on Aug 14, 2007 11:56:28 GMT 1
failing that we could come over for our next Af outing, trample the mouldy bush and chain ourselvs to the GH! It could be a job for colonal sweetleaf and co. tahw od uoy kniht 1hhh p4 ?
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I think it would get a response, what sort, I don't know!!
then feel very angry for you too 