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Post by madonplants on Jun 16, 2008 12:05:31 GMT 1
Well what do you think? www.pcadvisor.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=1965&blogid=4------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is this weird or what? But then, if anyone saw Craig at GWL, maybe there is some truth in it and he was only playing chess and 10 pin bowling on it!! ;D
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 13:34:48 GMT 1
Well what do you think? www.pcadvisor.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=1965&blogid=4------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is this weird or what? But then, if anyone saw Craig at GWL, maybe there is some truth in it and he was only playing chess and 10 pin bowling on it!! ;D I agree - don't give a kid a mobile phone until they are 16 - good idea. Most parents are pathetic wimps when it comes to the 'I want' demands of their kids these days.
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Post by Sweetleaf on Jun 16, 2008 13:49:24 GMT 1
I agree, but some children have been saved from disaster by their phone signals being tracked, so there is a case for them, phone credit can be limited after all, and usage monitored.
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 13:50:17 GMT 1
Well what do you think? www.pcadvisor.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=1965&blogid=4------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is this weird or what? But then, if anyone saw Craig at GWL, maybe there is some truth in it and he was only playing chess and 10 pin bowling on it!! ;D I agree - don't give a kid a mobile phone until they are 16 - good idea. Most parents are pathetic wimps when it comes to the 'I want' demands of their kids these days. It's hard to tell these days if a child has been upto no good, so i would advocate giving them a good beating at the end of each day too, just in case.
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 13:51:54 GMT 1
I agree, but some children have been saved from disaster by their phone signals being tracked, so there is a case for them, phone credit can be limited after all, and usage monitored. You don't need to 'track' them - just keep them on the end of a very long rope
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Post by Sweetleaf on Jun 16, 2008 13:53:32 GMT 1
Well..... I know that as a child I would have been naughty on purpose if Id known I was going to be punished either way, rather be hung for a sheep than a lamb, as they say. ;D
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 13:55:44 GMT 1
Well..... I know that as a child I would have been naughty on purpose if Id known I was going to be punished either way, rather be hung for a sheep than a lamb, as they say. ;D That would warrant a harder beating ;D
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Post by Sweetleaf on Jun 16, 2008 13:56:26 GMT 1
I agree, but some children have been saved from disaster by their phone signals being tracked, so there is a case for them, phone credit can be limited after all, and usage monitored. You don't need to 'track' them - just keep them on the end of a very long rope These are children not dogs babe, how long a rope do you envisage? Will it extend for school trips? And how will it cope with journeys to and from educational establishments and youth clubs? :
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 13:56:28 GMT 1
Well..... I know that as a child I would have been naughty on purpose if Id known I was going to be punished either way, rather be hung for a sheep than a lamb, as they say. ;D That would warrant a harder beating ;D It is probably just as well that I don't have kids ;D
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 13:58:09 GMT 1
You don't need to 'track' them - just keep them on the end of a very long rope These are children not dogs babe, how long a rope do you envisage? Will it extend for school trips? And how will it cope with journeys to and from educational establishments and youth clubs? : School trips??? Pah! However, I must admit there are some snags that need ironing out
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Post by madonplants on Jun 16, 2008 14:10:45 GMT 1
I agree, but some children have been saved from disaster by their phone signals being tracked, so there is a case for them, phone credit can be limited after all, and usage monitored. We have only 'given' Craig the use of a mobile for weekends and evenings, for our own piece of mind, though Craig is quite sensible. Just over a week ago, he got lost, coming out of the park the wrong way. He wasn't lost as such, but he was now 20-25 minutes from home. He had been told he had to be back for 1.30pm and it was now 1.22pm, so he didn't want us worrying. He didn't panic, well not too much he said, and went into the nearest Post Office (yes we still have some local ones!) and asked to use a phone. They said yes, but as it was for a 'good' reason, they didn't want any money from him. I went out to get him. It just got us thinking about a mobile for him, but with strict guidelines attached. He is now looking into a Payasyougo one, that he will get for either his Birthday or Christmas, unless he wants to use his pocket money, that is. ALL his friends have one, so he does feel a bit left out, but he hasn't moaned about it.
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 14:17:08 GMT 1
I agree, but some children have been saved from disaster by their phone signals being tracked, so there is a case for them, phone credit can be limited after all, and usage monitored. We have only 'given' Craig the use of a mobile for weekends and evenings, for our own piece of mind, though Craig is quite sensible. Just over a week ago, he got lost, coming out of the park the wrong way. He wasn't lost as such, but he was now 20-25 minutes from home. He had been told he had to be back for 1.30pm and it was now 1.22pm, so he didn't want us worrying. He didn't panic, well not too much he said, and went into the nearest Post Office (yes we still have some local ones!) and asked to use a phone. They said yes, but as it was for a 'good' reason, they didn't want any money from him. I went out to get him. It just got us thinking about a mobile for him, but with strict guidelines attached. He is now looking into a Payasyougo one, that he will get for either his Birthday or Christmas, unless he wants to use his pocket money, that is. ALL his friends have one, so he does feel a bit left out, but he hasn't moaned about it. You have hit the nail on the head! That is the big problem with mobile phones and youngsters - it hugely improves their chances of finding their way home should they get lost. Don't let him have one.
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Post by Sweetleaf on Jun 16, 2008 14:47:58 GMT 1
We have only 'given' Craig the use of a mobile for weekends and evenings, for our own piece of mind, though Craig is quite sensible. Just over a week ago, he got lost, coming out of the park the wrong way. He wasn't lost as such, but he was now 20-25 minutes from home. He had been told he had to be back for 1.30pm and it was now 1.22pm, so he didn't want us worrying. He didn't panic, well not too much he said, and went into the nearest Post Office (yes we still have some local ones!) and asked to use a phone. They said yes, but as it was for a 'good' reason, they didn't want any money from him. I went out to get him. It just got us thinking about a mobile for him, but with strict guidelines attached. He is now looking into a Payasyougo one, that he will get for either his Birthday or Christmas, unless he wants to use his pocket money, that is. ALL his friends have one, so he does feel a bit left out, but he hasn't moaned about it. You have hit the nail on the head! That is the big problem with mobile phones and youngsters - it hugely improves their chances of finding their way home should they get lost. Don't let him have one. If only I had seen that way of thinking before...Ive obviously been led astray.
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Post by debidoos on Jun 16, 2008 16:17:02 GMT 1
My niec had one for her EIGHTH birthday, and she has had 3 since!!! she's only NINE!! I just thought I'd point out I'm not in agreement with the idea, and Hannah will have to wait until she's at least in her teens!
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Post by emseypop on Jun 16, 2008 16:24:23 GMT 1
Well what do you think? www.pcadvisor.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=1965&blogid=4------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is this weird or what? But then, if anyone saw Craig at GWL, maybe there is some truth in it and he was only playing chess and 10 pin bowling on it!! ;D I agree - don't give a kid a mobile phone until they are 16 - good idea. Most parents are pathetic wimps when it comes to the 'I want' demands of their kids these days. I take it you were over 16 when you got your first mobile phone then Sleepy!?
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 16:28:34 GMT 1
I agree - don't give a kid a mobile phone until they are 16 - good idea. Most parents are pathetic wimps when it comes to the 'I want' demands of their kids these days. I take it you were over 16 when you got your first mobile phone then Sleepy!? 42
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Post by madonplants on Jun 16, 2008 16:56:38 GMT 1
My niec had one for her EIGHTH birthday, and she has had 3 since!!! she's only NINE!! I just thought I'd point out I'm not in agreement with the idea, and Hannah will have to wait until she's at least in her teens! When Craig was about 7/8, there was a kid in his class with one. I asked him what he wanted it for. I need it, so I can listen to music on it, he said!! Get a walkman, came my reply. He just looked at me! Craig's school doesn't allow them in school anyway, but as soon as they come out, they are all on them. I am surprised they don't all walk into each other!
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Post by debidoos on Jun 16, 2008 16:58:30 GMT 1
I was 16. I had one of the first gen pay and go phones.
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Post by debidoos on Jun 16, 2008 17:03:16 GMT 1
The same Niece just bought herself an Ipod Nano! she's also got her own Laptop, PSP, Nintendo DS...
Hannah upset me the other day, she said because we don't buy her as much as what my niece gets then we can't love her as much. We see my Niece virtually everyday so Hannah get her nose rubbed in it constantly.
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 17:06:35 GMT 1
The same Niece just bought herself an Ipod Nano! she's also got her own Laptop, PSP, Nintendo DS... Hannah upset me the other day, she said because we don't buy her as much as what my niece gets then we can't love her as much. We see my Niece virtually everyday so Hannah get her nose rubbed in it constantly. Then you have to teach Hannah that she cannot expect expensive things to be handed to her on a plate. The parents that give in to them are the stupid parents. Kids are good at creating such guilt trips, and educating that out of it is not easy. But if you give in you will end up with a spoilt brat who thinks the world owes them everything.
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Post by debidoos on Jun 16, 2008 17:13:56 GMT 1
Believe me I WILL NOT give in.
I am trying to bring up Hannah to value things, we have recently started giving her pocket money and if she wants anything she can save for it herself, she is currently saving for a doll that she really wants and I do believe that she will cherish it more if she's saved for it herself.
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Post by Sleepy on Jun 16, 2008 17:18:30 GMT 1
Believe me I WILL NOT give in. I am trying to bring up Hannah to value things, we have recently started giving her pocket money and if she wants anything she can save for it herself, she is currently saving for a doll that she really wants and I do believe that she will cherish it more if she's saved for it herself. Excellent - that's the way
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Post by madonplants on Jun 16, 2008 17:19:08 GMT 1
The same Niece just bought herself an Ipod Nano! she's also got her own Laptop, PSP, Nintendo DS... Hannah upset me the other day, she said because we don't buy her as much as what my niece gets then we can't love her as much. We see my Niece virtually everyday so Hannah get her nose rubbed in it constantly. Tell her, it's the other way around, actually. I still remember that boy on Fat Kids with Ian Wright. He had 4 tv's in his room. One for the 1-5 channels, 1 for the Sky Channels, 1 to play his Playstation on and one to play DVD's on!!!! The only way Ian could get him to exercise, was to have an exercise bike in his bedroom, wired up to power the tv's! Madness, absolute madness!!
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Post by debbiem on Jun 17, 2008 13:02:29 GMT 1
I bought William one, he's 11, as he was due to go on his first school residential trip and we all agreed that he could have it to ring us if need be. He's mildly Aspergers'/autistic, only very mildly and all this means is that he is not so attuned to social ways and wherefores and on unfamiliar territory might feel more uncomfortable than is the norm. We got the thing and then found out that there wouldn't be a signal where he was going so there was no point taking it. So, apart from him ringing me from upstairs once or twice about when dinner's ready it's just gathering dust atm. I'm glad he's got it though. My daughters don't seem bothered about having one at all atm. I'm useless with them as I always leave it at home when I'm out. I think it's all too easy for kids to have one for all the right reasons and then kids being kids before you know it they're glued to them non-stop.
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Post by emseypop on Jun 17, 2008 16:13:23 GMT 1
I bought William one, he's 11, as he was due to go on his first school residential trip and we all agreed that he could have it to ring us if need be. He's mildly Aspergers'/autistic, only very mildly and all this means is that he is not so attuned to social ways and wherefores and on unfamiliar territory might feel more uncomfortable than is the norm. We got the thing and then found out that there wouldn't be a signal where he was going so there was no point taking it. So, apart from him ringing me from upstairs once or twice about when dinner's ready it's just gathering dust atm. I'm glad he's got it though. My daughters don't seem bothered about having one at all atm. I'm useless with them as I always leave it at home when I'm out. I think it's all too easy for kids to have one for all the right reasons and then kids being kids before you know it they're glued to them non-stop. The two times the school has phone for me regarding Holly being ill i've been out and me phone has been home alone : Sean wasn't happy. He refuses to have one himself.
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