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Post by plocket on Jul 7, 2007 16:18:02 GMT 1
I've done some cuttings of Primrose Star for Sweetleaf, but would anyone else like me to try and take some cuttings for them? Clems that I've had success with are: Primrose Star (smallish Montana) Marjorie (Montana) Wesselton (Group1 - any aspect) Bear in mind they will be young cuttings and even if they do take you've got to harden them off over winter but this isn't difficult - I just want you to be aware that they won't be ready to go in the garden for a while If you want me to try any of my other clematis I'm more than willing providing they have green growth - just let me know! I'll soon tell you if they aren't suitable This is a genuine offer - please take advantage of it!!!!!
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Post by 4pygmies on Jul 7, 2007 17:46:47 GMT 1
I would LOVE too Plocket but I haven't anywhere to grow them.....how annoying is that? What a little Clemmy treasure you are.
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Post by plocket on Jul 7, 2007 19:53:49 GMT 1
Haven't you got room for a pot? Near the house? With a couple of canes in it? ? ;D
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Post by plocket on Jul 9, 2007 14:29:46 GMT 1
Ok I've done Primrose Star and Purity for Sweetleaf, and Wesselton for Cheery. Any more takers? I've got to do them sooner rather than later so they at least stand a chance of taking. Shout now or regret it forever!!! ;D
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Post by madonplants on Jul 10, 2007 12:32:58 GMT 1
I wouldn't mind a Wesselton please, Plocket!
Thanks
Keith
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Post by plocket on Jul 10, 2007 13:05:18 GMT 1
No problem Madon - I'll go and do a couple of cuttings for you right now.....
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Post by plocket on Jul 10, 2007 13:15:21 GMT 1
Done! Keep your fingers crossed that the take!!!
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Post by madonplants on Jul 10, 2007 14:06:21 GMT 1
Thanks Plocket. Bought a General Sikorski at the weekend. What pruning does it require? When I say I bought, Jennifer really did, as she was the one who spotted and fell in love with it! I do like it though!
Keith
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Post by Sleepy on Jul 10, 2007 14:14:57 GMT 1
Thanks Plocket. Bought a General Sikorski at the weekend. What pruning does it require? When I say I bought, Jennifer really did, as she was the one who spotted and fell in love with it! I do like it though! Keith That's an automatic rifle Keith, not a clematis!!!
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Post by plocket on Jul 10, 2007 14:36:20 GMT 1
Oh she's picked a beauty Madon! It's in pruning group 2 which means that you prune it after flowering, back to a maximum of about a half. The plant will then produce new growth after flowering, hopefully produce a second flush of flowers in the autumn, you can tidy off these flowers but not prune back, and then next year it will flower on the growth grown this year. Does that make sense? It should grow up to about 3 metres so I hope you've got a bit of space, but it's not fussy about aspect as it can cope with some shade. Plant it deeper than it already is (at least three inches deeper) and it will produce more growth from the bottom and promote a healthy plant. I hope that helps Madon Sleepy you are too funny!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by madonplants on Jul 10, 2007 14:48:01 GMT 1
Thank Plocket, that's great! Yes I did understand it! I think we are losing the rubrimarginata again, even though no sign of stem damage from slugs or snails! Think we are going to give it up, with that one. Keith
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Post by plocket on Jul 10, 2007 16:37:00 GMT 1
I wonder why it keeps struggling coz they are usually fairly vigorous plants. Could you try and take a photo so I can have a look at it? I can't promise to resolve the problem but I might be able to help.
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Post by madonplants on Jul 10, 2007 22:18:03 GMT 1
I wonder why it keeps struggling coz they are usually fairly vigorous plants. Could you try and take a photo so I can have a look at it? I can't promise to resolve the problem but I might be able to help. Will do, tomorrow. I would like to save it, if possible. It was doing so well a few weeks ago, flowering it's head off to now look dreadful!! Keith
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Post by madonplants on Jul 11, 2007 10:47:03 GMT 1
I wonder why it keeps struggling coz they are usually fairly vigorous plants. Could you try and take a photo so I can have a look at it? I can't promise to resolve the problem but I might be able to help. Here you go Plocket. It got top dressed in spring and gets the occasional seaweed feed! Keith
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Post by plocket on Jul 11, 2007 12:03:11 GMT 1
I see what you mean Madon! Well first of all I would check the soil for any bugs and treat as necessary if you find anything. Next I would top up the pot with more soil, and then put a mulch of something fairly sharp around the plant like flint or slates. That will help keep the slugs off (it isn't perfect though!) and help retain moisture. I would then carefully prune off the dead bits, providing they are the top part of the stem rather than the bottom part - it's difficult to tell from the photos. I think that most of the stems have died off and you only have one or two healthy ones left. Check it carefully before you prune though because you don't want to cut of live leaves. When you've done that, see what you are left with and hopefully there will be one strong stem left to help sustain the plant. How often do you water the plant? Although saying that it's probably been well watered over the last few weeks with all the rain we've been having! I don't think you need to worry too much yet, although it is looking poorly. Let me know how you get on with the pruning and what you are left with
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Post by madonplants on Jul 11, 2007 12:54:35 GMT 1
Thank Plocket. I will check soil later, need to go out to PO atm. I did have a little look earlier when first spotted, but couldn't see anything, but will look further in when I get back. I water fairly regulary and like you said it hasn't really needed that much with all this rain we have been having. It looked great at the beginning of last week!!! We only kept it in the pot, as we thought we were moving again, so if I can get it well again, I would like to and plant it out. It is planted quite deep and when it does this, it always grows again from the base, which is why I didn't really think soil pest. While it looks so bad, is it worth trying cuttings again, the ones I took before didn't take?!! You are told not to take cuttings from diseased stock in general, aren't you?! Oh well, back later! Thanks again. Keith
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Post by plocket on Jul 11, 2007 13:03:51 GMT 1
It sounds as though you are doing all the right things Madon but I would ease off the watering a bit because of all the rain, and not take cuttings until you know the plant is ok. You might have to prune the ok part back a bit but I'll advise on that once you've pruned off the dead bits.
See you later!
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Post by madonplants on Jul 13, 2007 23:20:59 GMT 1
It sounds as though you are doing all the right things Madon but I would ease off the watering a bit because of all the rain, and not take cuttings until you know the plant is ok. You might have to prune the ok part back a bit but I'll advise on that once you've pruned off the dead bits. See you later! Well did the pruning, gave it some more compost, need to get to the g/c for some gravel, but did find a few things. One baby snail in the top growth, two wood lice and one earwig. Roots looked OK. There is a few damaged stems, but the growth above that was OK, just pale looking! I had to prune one stem out virtually completely, as it was all brownish/dead. Also while having a look in the soil there looks to be a new shoot coming up. Does this help? Keith Below the 'good' growth is this... and... If the damage was the cause, why was all the dead growth, below this and not above?? Weird!
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Post by maggyd on Jul 14, 2007 19:50:51 GMT 1
Without being an expert Keith it dows look as if something has been chomping at it doent it. Do snails eat stems Plocket? I know the little beggars will eat the leaves I heard one would you believe one night when I was stood in the garden waiting for Teddy and it was munching away on a leaf what does Clematis wilt look like I have had much the same as Keith before on one of mine and I blamed wilt but I would of thought it has been too wet for that? am I wrong?
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Post by madonplants on Jul 14, 2007 19:59:12 GMT 1
Without being an expert Keith it dows look as if something has been chomping at it doent it. Do snails eat stems Plocket? I know the little beggars will eat the leaves I heard one would you believe one night when I was stood in the garden waiting for Teddy and it was munching away on a leaf what does Clematis wilt look like I have had much the same as Keith before on one of mine and I blamed wilt but I would of thought it has been too wet for that? am I wrong? I think that too tbh. One stem was completely shot, but the other was 'wilting' from the base upwards, which is the opposite to clematis wilt I think, unless the 2nd stem was affected by the other stem! Keith
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Post by plocket on Jul 15, 2007 18:49:19 GMT 1
YES they do eat stems! They'll eat the whole plant if they get a chance though they prefer new shoots for preference. The new growth is a very good sign madon - it shows you have a healthy plant below the soil so you just need to keep encouraging it.
I've got to serve dinner now but I'll write to you later Maggy!
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