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Post by roan on Oct 20, 2008 20:30:41 GMT 1
I have just had a look at the page you suggested and the synopsis of the book.
I believe he is right on many counts.
Just a few I know of:
1. Dietitians tell us to eat margarine in place of butter. Margarine is a poison!
2. In the past salt was Iodised to ensure we had an adequate supply of Iodine to prevent goitres. Today young children are getting goitres because they have no salt intake.
3. A surgeon at our local hospital told me that vegetarians present with the worst stomach problems because of their diet.
4. I have a book on Syndrome X and it makes interesting reading!
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Post by 4pygmies on Oct 21, 2008 7:21:24 GMT 1
I am very tempted to buy this too actually. I have many long running arguments with my OH about food and diet and margarine is an ever present one. I don't like the stuff but he thinks it's better for us so we have both in the house. What annoys me is that he tells smallest that it is better for her than butter - which is rubbish! Also his 'vegetarianism' is another argument - as he says that him not eating meat makes his diet automatically healthier than mine, which I think is rubbish too - he actually dislikes so many of the staple veggie foods that his diet is very poor in reality.
And, I'm sorry The witch but I didn't look at this thread initially as I detest the trick and treat thing! OH and eldest have to take smallest out as I refuse to do it!
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Post by Sleepy on Oct 21, 2008 7:27:36 GMT 1
I use Flora Buttery, and don't approve of Trick or Treat either.
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Post by bogmyrtle on Oct 21, 2008 8:43:21 GMT 1
That is really interesting The witch.
We have butter and not margarine - because of the trans-fatty-acids and I don't like it anyway. And regarding salt, I worked at Rackhams for a time and in the summer we were sent to the nurse each day for a salt tablet because of the heat in there! They wouldn't do it nowadays.
I wonder as well that as we have access to so much we make problems as we don't need as much as we eat and eat too much. Perhaps the days of rationing, less additives, etc are the way forward. Moderation never did any harm, a balanced diet.
We had a debate with hubby's sister regarding vegetarians, plus her and her partner are always on faddy diets and at our wedding people were asking if she was recovering from a serious illness.
Trick or treat - they only come to our house once! Having spent an All Hallows Eve in America, I always question the kids as to what it is, what does it mean, why are they doing it, etc.......... Rotten I am - failing that we don't answer the door!
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Post by roan on Oct 21, 2008 9:25:53 GMT 1
I've bought his book from Amazon, it should be here in a few weeks - looking forward to digesting it!  |
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Post by debbiem on Oct 21, 2008 9:53:31 GMT 1
I'm going to get it too! I'm a fallen vegetarian and I can't ever see myself going back there. OH is always going on about people needing fat in their diets too.... What Barry has said, even in the small snippets here, makes so much sense! If I have say a tin of mackerel or a piece of smoked mackerel for lunch with maybe a bit of salad or bread my stomach feels well satisfied for hours, it's a completely different feeling to the one I get after grazing on say salad, or bread, it's really different. I've often questioned whether all this 'modern day eating' is really the way to go too. I need to lose weight and often feel hungry, just like he says, through not eating properly and not eating in the manner we are designed to eat. Trick or treating, I like how they describe it in the top article - extortion with menace.  My kids usually go out doing it and loads of children knock on our door - I wonder how they'd react if I opted for a trick rather than treat them? We always have a pumpkin in the window all lit up with candles, which is a good indicater that we're open to trick or treating...... But this year the girls have been invited to a party!  So that takes care of that. |
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 21, 2008 13:37:18 GMT 1
Seriously fascinating stuff this.
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 21, 2008 16:23:50 GMT 1
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Oct 21, 2008 20:46:13 GMT 1
Having read the chapter headings I reckon it's yet another bandwagon jumping 'stating the flippin' obvious' lifestyle book.(as well as making rather dodgy recommendations about diet.)..sorry.
Fact; If you reduce the amount of calories you eat whilst increasing your activity, you will lose weight.
The claims made for this book seem typical of the 'pseudo-science' that many trendy/celebrity diets call on to back up their products. If you eat good, fresh fruit and vegetables, a little lean meat, poultry and/or fish, grains and cereal and cut out processed rubbish not only will you look better, but you will feel better too.
Fat is harder for your body to metabolise than carbohydrate. 1 gram of carbohydrate contains 4 calories, as does 1 gram of protein. 1 gram of FAT however, contains 9 calories. Fats are an important part of our diet, but should be eaten in moderation. Balance.
I am prolly talking out of my (ample) nether regions....let us know...maybe this book has the answer to eternal youth or sommat...I'll just have to read it (but I ent buying it...one of my sisters prolly will...)
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Post by roan on Oct 21, 2008 20:58:52 GMT 1
WOW CPB!  I bet you feel better for getting that off your chest! ;D |
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Post by 4pygmies on Oct 22, 2008 7:07:18 GMT 1
This thread has been flitting back and forth in my head and I have to say I agree with Cheery. I shan't be getting the book.( Although, Cheery dearie, I am living proof that eating less calories and doing more exercise does NOT automatically make you lose weight!  ) I don't think I like any diet which recommends loads of a particular thing - even fruit! I believe that we should eat anything we fancy, but in moderation, and trying to make sure we eat something from each food 'group' every day. We are very fortunate that we can even have this conversation really aren't we? Many people don't have that luxury..... I think eating a varied diet, getting enough exercise (gardening probably IS best the best, most interesting and environmentally friendly way  ) and trying to be positive, happy and helpful is a pretty good rule of thumb for a healthy life IMO! |
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Post by debbiem on Oct 22, 2008 9:27:16 GMT 1
Do you remember them telling us ketchup gives you cancer?  |
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Post by 4pygmies on Oct 22, 2008 9:43:00 GMT 1
No! Really? Good grief...... |
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Post by debbiem on Oct 22, 2008 10:09:13 GMT 1
I think it gets to a point where nobody can possibly do right for fear of doing wrong, if you see what I mean! Our nation is a food disorder just waiting to happen!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Oct 22, 2008 17:12:32 GMT 1
A lot of it is down to both your genes and your upbringing imo. All my sisters are chubby, as was my Mummy. With childbearing hips and thighs like tree trunks...it ent pretty. I remember going hungry as a child because there wasn't enough food in the house. Mum did her best, but with 6 children and only one wage coming in it wasn't easy. My diet (and that of my sisters) consisted largely of chocolate-spread sandwiches or bread and cheese, we just had a cooked meal on a Saturday (usually stew or chips) and a roast on Sunday. If we wanted something to nibble on we were given a raw carrot. Mum was VERY good at cooking stodge as well....she was an excellent cook, but any meat bought was fed to my father when he arrived home from work on his motorbike. He sometimes let me have some of his gravy with a bit of bread to soak it up. It sounds a bit like the '4 Yorkshiremen sketch'...but that's how it was. I was a fat child, slimmed down a bit as a teenager, then piled on the weight when I got wed and had a family of my own to cook for...I spend a fortune on food, and shop for food as if we have to feed at least half of Leicester and not just 3 of us....but my family have never gone hungry like I did as a girl. All my sisters are the same...BIG GIRLS! I've had to re-educate myself to eat less, just because I can afford it doesn't mean we should have great big meals several times a day! I didn't mean to be offensive about that book...but several friends and family have fallen for one trendy diet or other, which inevitably entails buying special, expensive products, so I get quite wound up about the 'Diet' industry....SORREEEEE  |
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 28, 2008 14:31:46 GMT 1
WOW CPB! I bet you feel better for getting that off your chest! ;D Her ample chest..... |
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Post by debbiem on Oct 31, 2008 15:31:49 GMT 1
It'll be interesting to see what you think of it The witch, with the whole of the book to look at. |
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) I don't think I like any diet which recommends loads of a particular thing - even fruit! I believe that we should eat anything we fancy, but in moderation, and trying to make sure we eat something from each food 'group' every day. We are very fortunate that we can even have this conversation really aren't we? Many people don't have that luxury..... I think eating a varied diet, getting enough exercise (gardening probably IS best the best, most interesting and environmentally friendly way 
) and trying to be positive, happy and helpful is a pretty good rule of thumb for a healthy life IMO!