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Post by mickthecactus on Sept 30, 2008 22:09:18 GMT 1
Did anybody watch Jamie Oliver just now trying to teach them to cook in Rotherham? It's rare that I shout at the TV but it was unbelievable.
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Post by roan on Sept 30, 2008 22:11:18 GMT 1
I take it you really enjoyed it then?
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Post by madonplants on Sept 30, 2008 22:17:49 GMT 1
Did anybody watch Jamie Oliver just now trying to teach them to cook in Rotherham? It's rare that I shout at the TV but it was unbelievable. I've never been a fan of his, especially after he did this on tv!! |
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Post by mickthecactus on Sept 30, 2008 22:20:04 GMT 1
Yes Keith but did you see the programme? He was irrelevant. It could have been any TV chef. I cannot believe people can be so thick.
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Post by madonplants on Sept 30, 2008 22:23:45 GMT 1
Yes Keith but did you see the programme? He was irrelevant. It could have been any TV chef. I cannot believe people can be so thick. No I didn't. Ever since that 'stunt', never been a fan and then his school meals thing. Still remember him being on that plane with Prescott, showing a meal that he could do for the same price as school meals were costing. It was so fancy, most kids would have turned their noses up at. What happened on the programme and what were you shouting, or won't you repeat it? |
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Post by mickthecactus on Sept 30, 2008 22:31:34 GMT 1
He went to Rotherham to show them how to cook food.
They lived on take aways solely or chocolate or crisps. Children would only eat doner kebab and chips. They had NEVER cooked (so they said) either becuse they had no idea how to, or because their benefits wouln't provide enough money or because they didn't have time. But they smoked, bought takeaways, thier 18 month old children had earrings etc.
He tried to teach them how to cook meat balls and spaghetti and then plain salmon. Half of them were frightened to touch it even.
He never got near fruit and veg. What sort of society do we have? The back garden of one of them was just a total rubbish tip. Disgusting....
Sorry. Rant over.
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Post by madonplants on Sept 30, 2008 23:28:20 GMT 1
He went to Rotherham to show them how to cook food. They lived on take aways solely or chocolate or crisps. Children would only eat doner kebab and chips. They had NEVER cooked (so they said) either becuse they had no idea how to, or because their benefits wouln't provide enough money or because they didn't have time. But they smoked, bought takeaways, thier 18 month old children had earrings etc. He tried to teach them how to cook meat balls and spaghetti and then plain salmon. Half of them were frightened to touch it even. He never got near fruit and veg. What sort of society do we have? The back garden of one of them was just a total rubbish tip. Disgusting.... Sorry. Rant over. That is dreadful. Other than cooking at school, cakes and desserts, I didn't know how to cook until I met Jennifer. I had only done things on toast or boiled eggs. I was allowed to help prepare food, peel the spuds etc. but the actually cooking was done by my Mum. I used to help my Dad in the garden or on the car, while my sister helped my Mum with the cooking. That is probably why I don't like cooking now, but I can obviously or the kids would starve when Jennifer goes away on business! My problem is knowing when to put things on at what time, so could never see myself doing a sunday roast on my own ever. Doner kebabs are not tooooooooo unhealthy, but not on a regular basis, for Chr**t's sake! Why try to teach them salmon, wouldn't it be better with something they could relate to? Earrings in 18 months olds!!!! I thought a family, who lived on that residential caravan site where Jennifer and I first lived, were bad enough with their smoking. They would share cigarettes around the family while outside for all to see, even to the infant in a pushchair!!   I never had a takeaway, when I was a kid, unless on holiday. I lived in a village and our nearest one was a 20-25 minute bus ride and the same back again. Some of my childhood, we didn't have a car, in case anyone asks! I still remember an ex-work colleague of mine at the T.O. who moved into a new house with her husband. The new house had a lovely 'Nef' double oven and hob and six months after they moved in, Jennifer was horrified to see the oven had never been used. She did all her cooking in the microwave she had bought, as she didn't know how to use a proper cooker. I don't even think the instruction booklet had been opened and this was Sutton!! |
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Post by 4pygmies on Oct 1, 2008 7:25:36 GMT 1
I deliberately didn't watch it cos I knew I'd get cross just watching the trailer...........there are lots of species of humans and these were obviously the really vacant type! I like Jamie Oliver though - I think he is genuinely well meaning but he just is so far removed from those people's life styles - he might as well try and teach an onion algebra......
But this is why I am soooo passionate about teaching kids how to grow things - we have to start at the very beginning with the young children - there are so many without any idea about what and where food comes from. It should be on the curriculum of every school, all of them should have a veggie plot and all schools should teach basic cooking skills.....our fast food, fast everything and consumer obsessed society is failing our children miserably...it's a scary prospect with the state of the world and our climate I think. At least Jamie Oliver is trying to do something about it, however hapless he is at it! If only he was supported by the Government, the authorities and the parents......we are all responsible for the mess and we could all contribute to repairing the damage. The modern obsession with possessions, new cars, our 'right' to this and that, etc etc has set a terrible example to the younger generations. (Lecture over - sorry, but it's appalling!)
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Post by 4pygmies on Oct 1, 2008 8:11:53 GMT 1
I don't agree with the method used in the slaughter as there are much more humane ways but I can't see what's wrong with showing the animal dying tbh. If you eat meat then this is what has to happen! Millions of animals are slaughtered every day all over the world, in far worse conditions than that.... And considering that there are gruesome scenes of violence, murder and torture shown in films, games, the Internet and on the TV at any hour I think it's downright ludicrous to be upset at the death of one animal on national TV. It's that same old attitude - it's not what happens that counts, it's the look of the thing...........sorry, I'm not getting at anyone here, (cos I wouldn't like to have seen that either :  ), but it's a very odd way to look at things, isn't it? When I was young I used to sit and pluck a chicken with my Nan, one that she'd killed, without turning a hair but now it would turn my stomach, so I include myself in the general criticism! |
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Post by madonplants on Oct 1, 2008 11:46:45 GMT 1
I know it happens, I lived next to a farm as a kid, but to have done it without stunning the animal first was appalling in my view! Jennifer, as part of her food science degree, had to go to a slaughter house, so know all the gory details. Producers do have a lot to answer for and I'm convinced a lot of GW's 'faults' are down to the producers and not the presenters. After seeing Jamie on that plane, I think he lives in cloud cuckoo land, sometimes. Give me James Martin any day. Why try and cook salmon, when you should be talking about fruit and veg, maybe even growing it like James Martin did, beforehand. That would have made a much better programme in my view, not that I saw this one. What side was it on, btw?
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I never had a takeaway, when I was a kid, unless on holiday. I lived in a village and our nearest one was a 20-25 minute bus ride and the same back again. Some of my childhood, we didn't have a car, in case anyone asks!