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Post by 4pygmies on Feb 21, 2008 17:52:17 GMT 1
It's amazing what they can make now isn't it? But the trouble is that lots of them are relatively expensive compared to other un recycled products. That seems wrong and also illogical to me..
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Post by 4pygmies on Feb 21, 2008 17:58:35 GMT 1
Don't get me going on VAT! It's a disgraceful and unnecessary tax - iniquitous to charge VAT on lots of things - childrens clothes, sanitary wear, nappies....grr......
Terrys yes, but disposable nappies, well, they should double the VAT!
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Post by Sleepy on Feb 21, 2008 17:59:26 GMT 1
It's amazing what they can make now isn't it? But the trouble is that lots of them are relatively expensive compared to other un recycled products. That seems wrong and also illogical to me.. And to me 4P - they should/could reduce the VAT at least! What? And how are the fat cats supposed to survive then? Eh? Answer me that? It is being ripped off left right and centre, as well as a steady erosion of our civil rights, that has made this country great young lady, and don't you forget it. |
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Post by 4pygmies on Feb 21, 2008 18:02:31 GMT 1
OI! Sabotage.......I'm being tampered with......invisible and having my personal posts infringed...what ever next?
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Post by Sleepy on Feb 21, 2008 18:05:47 GMT 1
OI! Sabotage.......I'm being tampered with......invisible and having my personal posts infringed...what ever next? Eh? Whats going on? |
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Post by Sleepy on Feb 21, 2008 18:16:21 GMT 1
Don't get me going on VAT! It's a disgraceful and unnecessary tax - iniquitous to charge VAT on lots of things - childrens clothes, sanitary wear, nappies....grr...... I remember when VAT was first introduced - it was called a luxury tax............ pah! Of course it is. It allows MPs to award themselves over-the-top, luxurious pay increases and funds grand and luxurious expenses claims. |
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Post by roan on Feb 21, 2008 21:00:18 GMT 1
Don't get me going on VAT! It's a disgraceful and unnecessary tax - iniquitous to charge VAT on lots of things - childrens clothes, sanitary wear, nappies....grr...... Terrys yes, but disposable nappies, well, they should double the VAT! It's interesting about disposable nappies, we were always dead set against them until it was pointed out to us the pros and cons of cloth nappies and disposables. Have a look at this website: www.kca.com.au/environment/disposableorcloth.htmIn New Zealand we have GST which is VAT under another name and is charged on ALL Goods and Services. There are NO exemptions and this often means a double or triple tax take on items like petrol, alcohol, cigarettes etc. |
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Post by madonplants on Feb 21, 2008 21:55:19 GMT 1
Don't get me going on VAT! It's a disgraceful and unnecessary tax - iniquitous to charge VAT on lots of things - childrens clothes, sanitary wear, nappies....grr...... Terrys yes, but disposable nappies, well, they should double the VAT! It's interesting about disposable nappies, we were always dead set against them until it was pointed out to us the pros and cons of cloth nappies and disposables. Have a look at this website: www.kca.com.au/environment/disposableorcloth.htmIn New Zealand we have GST which is VAT under another name and is charged on ALL Goods and Services. There are NO exemptions and this often means a double or triple tax take on items like petrol, alcohol, cigarettes etc. That's a good site, Roan. I feel a bit better having used disposable ones on my two, even though one of my SiLs got us 12 cloth nappies to start us off. Trouble with that is that the midwived didn't want them used in the hospital, so once we started we carried on. Those cloth ones are still somewhere, unused, probably in the loft!  Keith |
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Post by roan on Feb 21, 2008 22:44:07 GMT 1
It's interesting about disposable nappies, we were always dead set against them until it was pointed out to us the pros and cons of cloth nappies and disposables. Have a look at this website: www.kca.com.au/environment/disposableorcloth.htmIn New Zealand we have GST which is VAT under another name and is charged on ALL Goods and Services. There are NO exemptions and this often means a double or triple tax take on items like petrol, alcohol, cigarettes etc. That's a good site, Roan. I feel a bit better having used disposable ones on my two, even though one of my SiLs got us 12 cloth nappies to start us off. Trouble with that is that the midwived didn't want them used in the hospital, so once we started we carried on. Those cloth ones are still somewhere, unused, probably in the loft! Keith Our daughter was given lots of cloth nappies and she now uses them as bibs for her 4 year old twins. Tied loosely round the neck, they catch virtually everything that falls between the plate and the mouth! ;D |
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Post by bogmyrtle on Feb 22, 2008 9:36:50 GMT 1
Split from: Green+milk+bottlesArent they in carton form rather than bottle? I think it is a good idea when you think of the tons of plastic that has to be got rid of. I did see once that fleece jackets were being mde from recycled plastic bottles  but then what happens to the fleece jackets when finished with?  Recycled again perhaps  I've just done a google search for jackets made from recycled plastic - this is just one of the results - www.basingstoke.gov.uk/services/recycle/recycling/buyrecycled.htm I gave hubby a fleece for Christmas and it was a recycled one. I didn't buy it for that reason though, it was because it was suited for bushcraft - thermal, windproof, etc. It was only afterwards I realised it was made from recycled plastic! Haven't given a thought to what will happen to it afterwards! I will go on the Berghaus site at some stage and see if they have any suggestions. |
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Post by debbiem on Feb 22, 2008 13:07:51 GMT 1
It's interesting about disposable nappies, we were always dead set against them until it was pointed out to us the pros and cons of cloth nappies and disposables. Have a look at this website: www.kca.com.au/environment/disposableorcloth.htmIn New Zealand we have GST which is VAT under another name and is charged on ALL Goods and Services. There are NO exemptions and this often means a double or triple tax take on items like petrol, alcohol, cigarettes etc. That's a good site, Roan. I feel a bit better having used disposable ones on my two, even though one of my SiLs got us 12 cloth nappies to start us off. Trouble with that is that the midwived didn't want them used in the hospital, so once we started we carried on. Those cloth ones are still somewhere, unused, probably in the loft! Keith You can multitask with the cloth ones, they're good for almost anything! ;D I couldn't get on with them at all anyway, I think if I'd have carried on with them my babies would've been hazardous to the environment! ;D Sometimes it's the parents themselves who are the problem with the disposable ones, leaving them on the ground in pull-in parking areas when they're on holiday, disposing of them in all the wrong places, whereas you would take the cloth ones home. There's that angle to consider too..... |
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Post by roan on Feb 24, 2008 20:28:51 GMT 1
That's a good site, Roan. I feel a bit better having used disposable ones on my two, even though one of my SiLs got us 12 cloth nappies to start us off. Trouble with that is that the midwived didn't want them used in the hospital, so once we started we carried on. Those cloth ones are still somewhere, unused, probably in the loft! Keith You can multitask with the cloth ones, they're good for almost anything! ;D I couldn't get on with them at all anyway, I think if I'd have carried on with them my babies would've been hazardous to the environment! ;D Sometimes it's the parents themselves who are the problem with the disposable ones, leaving them on the ground in pull-in parking areas when they're on holiday, disposing of them in all the wrong places, whereas you would take the cloth ones home. There's that angle to consider too..... I wonder why the don't make disposable nappies that break down better, or perhaps even that are re-cyclable! |
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Post by maggyd on Feb 24, 2008 22:11:30 GMT 1
I always wonder how they can afford disposable nappies! I know I could never have. I did buy them when we went on caravan holidays though you cant wash nappies when your away. I cant see how they are better for the environment though. |
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Post by Sweetleaf on Feb 24, 2008 22:25:07 GMT 1
I always wonder how they can afford disposable nappies! I know I could never have. I did buy them when we went on caravan holidays though you cant wash nappies when your away. I cant see how they are better for the environment though. I didnt use them unless I was stuck Maggy but these days the young mums dont see them as a luxury, and they wouldnt consider handling a dirty nappy to wash it... : I used to boil mine in Omo in a berko boiler, they were soft and snowy white, and I loved the way they looked on the line, too. I couldnt explain that to my daughter if I had a year to do it.  |
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Post by 4pygmies on Feb 24, 2008 23:47:39 GMT 1
You can multitask with the cloth ones, they're good for almost anything! ;D I couldn't get on with them at all anyway, I think if I'd have carried on with them my babies would've been hazardous to the environment! ;D Sometimes it's the parents themselves who are the problem with the disposable ones, leaving them on the ground in pull-in parking areas when they're on holiday, disposing of them in all the wrong places, whereas you would take the cloth ones home. There's that angle to consider too..... I wonder why the don't make disposable nappies that break down better, or perhaps even that are re-cyclable! They do make disposable nappies that are biodegradable but, as usual, they are very expensive compared to the others. It never makes any sense to me, that. Why not make it all biodegradable? It seems stoopid to me. I never can understand why we have to pay a premium on caring about the environment.... |
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Post by roan on Feb 24, 2008 23:50:54 GMT 1
I wonder why the don't make disposable nappies that break down better, or perhaps even that are re-cyclable! They do make disposable nappies that are biodegradable but, as usual, they are very expensive compared to the others. It never makes any sense to me, that. Why not make it all biodegradable? It seems stoopid to me. I never can understand why we have to pay a premium on caring about the environment.... I didn't know that! Our daughter had hers supplied by the hospital and I am sure they were not bio-degradable. She used to get a number of cartons delivered to her door by courier every couple of months. She was always very careful how she disposed of them though. |
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but then what happens to the fleece jackets when finished with? 
