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Post by 4pygmies on Nov 3, 2007 8:36:02 GMT 1
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Post by Sweetleaf on Nov 3, 2007 14:57:30 GMT 1
Read signed and confirmed. Thanks 4P  |
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Nov 3, 2007 15:53:30 GMT 1
Surprisingly enough I agree with you about that aspect of GE. If the engineering was being done to benefit the lot of the starving I'd maybe have more time for them....some x-breeding to improve a crop's disease resistance is one thing...but manipulating the basic building blocks of life simply for intensive farming..to line the pockets of the big chemical/seed companies is another thing altogether..
Monoculture and ignoring the natural balance of the ecosystem will end up with the desertificaction of the world imo....we're all doomed....
Have signed.
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Post by debbiem on Nov 4, 2007 9:02:54 GMT 1
Me too. |
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Post by plocket on Nov 6, 2007 10:28:39 GMT 1
Just waiting for my e-mail......
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Post by roan on Nov 6, 2007 20:12:36 GMT 1
We grow a lot of maize here in Gisborne, none of which is GE modified thank goodness!
Some did creep in a couple of years ago thanks to an American supplier but was quickly discovered and destroyed.
So, I'm with you and happy to sign a petition.
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Post by 4pygmies on Nov 6, 2007 20:49:17 GMT 1
Thanks Roan, I remain convinced that GM crops are much less to do with feeding the world and much more for the sake of control, power and money making. On that level I oppose them utterly but I am fairly convinced that they are quite unnecessary anyway although I do try to retain an open (ish) mind about it - I don't want them on the UK mainland as I really don't believe they will have anything but a widespread and possibly irreversible effect on both wild life and the established food chains. There are other ways to feed the world's populations but they involve things like tolerance, fairmindedness, consideration and equality.......
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Post by roan on Nov 6, 2007 21:02:53 GMT 1
Thanks Roan, I remain convinced that GM crops are much less to do with feeding the world and much more for the sake of control, power and money making. On that level I oppose them utterly but I am fairly convinced that they are quite unnecessary anyway although I do try to retain an open (ish) mind about it - I don't want them on the UK mainland as I really don't believe they will have anything but a widespread and possibly irreversible effect on both wild life and the established food chains. There are other ways to feed the world's populations but they involve things like tolerance, fairmindedness, consideration and equality....... We seem to do very well growing sweetcorn and maize here gaining high yields without recourse to GM seed. One of my customers grows organic corn, have a look at their website: www.kiwiorganics.com/ |
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Post by 4pygmies on Nov 6, 2007 21:09:57 GMT 1
More power to their elbow, I say. They seem to be rising to the challenge of large scale organic growing very successfully.
What are Kumeras please Roan? I've never heard of them.
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Post by roan on Nov 6, 2007 21:14:54 GMT 1
More power to their elbow, I say. They seem to be rising to the challenge of large scale organic growing very successfully. What are Kumeras please Roan? I've never heard of them. It is the Maori version of a sweet potato and comes in two varieties, a reddish skin and a yellowish skin. The reddish skin variety has a much nicer flavour. You can boil or roast them and they are delicious! We always have boiled ones with our Sunday roast. We have some in the cupboard, so I will post a picture later. |
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Post by roan on Nov 6, 2007 22:06:33 GMT 1
More power to their elbow, I say. They seem to be rising to the challenge of large scale organic growing very successfully. What are Kumeras please Roan? I've never heard of them. It is the Maori version of a sweet potato and comes in two varieties, a reddish skin and a yellowish skin. The reddish skin variety has a much nicer flavour. You can boil or roast them and they are delicious! We always have boiled ones with our Sunday roast. We have some in the cupboard, so I will post a picture later. Here's the picture  This one's going in the pot on Sunday! |
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Post by 4pygmies on Nov 6, 2007 22:18:56 GMT 1
I see! Thank you - you learn about something new every day don't you? (Especially when you've got a memory as bad as mine)
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Post by bogmyrtle on Nov 7, 2007 17:33:25 GMT 1
Signed and confirmed |
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Post by Sleepy on Nov 7, 2007 17:39:55 GMT 1
Signed and confirmed Ditto |
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Post by chickadeedeedee on Nov 12, 2007 0:57:18 GMT 1
In the USA there is modified corn so many varieties are insect pest resistant. The pollen has proven to be toxic for butterflies, particularly the Monarch Butterfly and thousands have died after coming in contact with it. Who knows what other casualties these genetically modified crops have caused?  |
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Post by madonplants on Nov 12, 2007 13:56:03 GMT 1
Signed and confirmed Ditto too! I took a while to do this because don't we do this on a lesser scale when we cross two plants to get a better variety? I know it's not quite the same, which is why I have signed! Keith |
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Post by Sleepy on Nov 12, 2007 14:01:57 GMT 1
Signed and confirmed Ditto too! I took a while to do this because don't we do this on a lesser scale when we cross two plants to get a better variety? I know it's not quite the same, which is why I have signed! Keith It's not the same at all Keith. One is selective cross breeding to promote a dominant feature, the other is altering the building-blocks of life at a molecular level. |
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Post by Sweetleaf on Nov 12, 2007 14:02:26 GMT 1
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Post by madonplants on Nov 12, 2007 14:04:29 GMT 1
Ditto too! I took a while to do this because don't we do this on a lesser scale when we cross two plants to get a better variety? I know it's not quite the same, which is why I have signed! Keith It's not the same at all Keith. One is selective cross breeding to promote a dominant feature, the other is altering the building-blocks of life at a molecular level. That is why I said it's not quite the same, didn't I?  Keith |
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Post by Sleepy on Nov 12, 2007 14:08:57 GMT 1
It's not the same at all Keith. One is selective cross breeding to promote a dominant feature, the other is altering the building-blocks of life at a molecular level. That is why I said it's not quite the same, didn't I? Keith It's not 'not quite the same' Keith, it's not the same at all - it is completely different. |
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Post by madonplants on Nov 12, 2007 14:10:55 GMT 1
That is why I said it's not quite the same, didn't I? Keith It's not 'not quite the same' Keith, it's not the same at all - it is completely different.What I am getting at is, the reasoning behind why they want to do it, not the how it's done bit! Keith |
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Post by 4pygmies on Feb 13, 2008 9:42:51 GMT 1
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Post by debbiem on Feb 13, 2008 10:35:20 GMT 1
I've read the top one so far, 4P, I'll read the others later - what a mess! It seems that growing these crops are not only a complete waste of time and are doing none of the things they were meant to for the planet but are giving Mother Nature a good kicking to boot. It's frightening, isn't it?
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Post by 4pygmies on Feb 17, 2008 11:18:01 GMT 1
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Post by madonplants on Feb 17, 2008 13:32:43 GMT 1
It's certainly worrying, but what else is happening in secret, we don't know about? That first paragraph worries me more. If there was NOTHING to worry about, why do it in secret at all?  This all needs to be done in the open, so we know more of the facts. G*d I am worried now!! Keith |
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