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Post by bogmyrtle on Dec 18, 2008 14:04:06 GMT 1
Or gardening by the moon's cycle not by the light of the silvery one!
I have the calender for 2009 and would like to think that there is something in it as our ancestors would have used the true natural cycle in everyday life.
I probably will not be able to follow it exactly all year (I'm a bit dizzy sometimes and do things when I can as we all have to).
Between Christmas and the New Year I am happy to post a brief summary of January (if I can understand it!) and then follow on each month if anyone else would find it useful and interesting.
(PS - I believe Toby Buckland is doing an article in the January GW magazine about it as well, I bought my calender in October before I knew that)
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Post by emseypop on Dec 18, 2008 14:10:14 GMT 1
Or gardening by the moon's cycle not by the light of the silvery one! I have the calender for 2009 and would like to think that there is something in it as our ancestors would have used the true natural cycle in everyday life. I probably will not be able to follow it exactly all year (I'm a bit dizzy sometimes and do things when I can as we all have to). Between Christmas and the New Year I am happy to post a brief summary of January (if I can understand it!) and then follow on each month if anyone else would find it useful and interesting. (PS - I believe Toby Buckland is doing an article in the January GW magazine about it as well, I bought my calender in October before I knew that) One of the plot holders on the big dig gardened via the Luna calender and did quite well. One of the old school welsh blokes gave it a go with his spuds and there was a marked difference in his crop so I recall. |
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Post by bogmyrtle on Dec 31, 2008 15:58:41 GMT 1
After a couple of attempts, I think I will post the details first.
Moon Phases:
New - start of the lunar cycle, it marks a change of direction in the moon's energy
Waxing - the growing energies are drawn into the upper part of the plant, therefore sow plants that are grown for their properties above ground (everything except root vegetables)
Full - again, a change of direction for the moon's energies. Seeds germinate well just before a full moon.
Waning - the soils is 'absorbing' and growing energies are pulled down towards the roots. This is when to use water or natureal fertilisers which are well absorbed by soil and into the plant. Sow root crops durin a waning moon.
Ascending Moon - draws sap of the plants upwards - a good time for grafting and harvesting any produce growing above ground
Descending Moon - drawing sap down, plant or transplant seedlings.
PLANT ASPECT:
Root days: cultivating potatoes & other root crops
Plant during the descending lunar orbit
Sow on rootdays - waning moon
Fertilise - waning moon
Harevest & store on root days when the moon is descending.
Flower Days: - flowers, flowering herbs, flowering hedges & trees
Plant & prune whilst moon is descending
Sow with a waxing moon
Fertilise when moon is waning
Graft roses, store bulbs or harvest floweing herbs when moon is ascening
Leaf Days - salads, spinach, leaf herbs, leeks, cabbages, cauliflower, grass, non-flowering hedges
Plant or prune during a descending moon
Sow waxing moon preferably on a leaf day
Fertilise - waning moon
Harvesting - moon ascending, however, to store your leaf harvest, use fruit or flower days as the watery element present on leaf days is not good for storing.
Fruit Days - all fruits & fruiting vegetables (tomatoes, cucumber, courgettes, beans, peas, peppers, etc!
Plant or replant seedlings, prune fruit trees during a descending moon
Sow - preferably on a waxing moon fruit day
Fertilise - waning moon
Graft fruit trees/shrubs & harvest fruits and fruiting veg for storage on an ascending moon.
I haven't gone into the different star signs as there is an awful lot to take in anyway.
Phew - confused? You soon will be, I'll post the monthly breakdown for January shortly.
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Post by bogmyrtle on Dec 31, 2008 18:04:24 GMT 1
Jan 1st - 2nd until 11.30am - flower days, ascending, waxing moon
From 2nd 11.30 until 5th Jan18.30hrs approx - leaf days with with ascending, waxing moon
5th 18.30 until 7th at 12.00hrs fruit days, moon as previous
7th 12.00hrs until 9th 19.00hrs - root days, moon still ascending but becoming full.
9th 19.00hrs until 11th 16.00hrs (approx) flower dyas with moon at it's height at 03.27 GMT on the 11th, so we are now into descending moon
11th 16.00hrs - 13th 12.30hrs leaf days with descending moon.
13th 12.30hrs - 15th 17.00hrs fruit days descending, waning moon
15th 17.00hrs - 19th 01.00hrs - root days, waning, descending moon.
19th 01.00hrs - 20th 19.00hrs - flower days, descending, waning moon.
20th 19.00hrs - 23rd 23.00hrs - leaf days, descending, waning moon
23rd 23.00hrs - 25th 17.00hrs - fruit days, 23rd is descending, waning moon, 24th onwards new moon, ascending.
25th 17.00hrs - 28th 04.00hrs - root days, new moon, ascending.
28th 04.00hrs - 29th 19.00hrs - flower days, waxing ascending moon
29th 19.00hrs - 2nd Feb 04.00hrs - leaf days ascending waxing moon.
The timings are approximate (except for the moon time given) as I have taken them from the calender and each day is about 1/2" wide with just 6hr markings on!
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Post by debbiem on Dec 31, 2008 19:04:25 GMT 1
WOW! This is fascinating - when I get a few minutes to read this properly I definitely will. Thanks Myrtle.  |
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Post by emseypop on Jan 14, 2009 10:53:13 GMT 1
Right so its garlic and parsnips on friday and some mixed flowers on saturday |
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Post by bogmyrtle on Jan 14, 2009 16:00:40 GMT 1
Right so its garlic and parsnips on friday and some mixed flowers on saturday Just to see and I know it is not going to be that scientific, I will do my parsnips the following week and then we can compare! That's assuming mine even grow! |
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Post by emseypop on Jan 14, 2009 17:05:16 GMT 1
Right so its garlic and parsnips on friday and some mixed flowers on saturday Just to see and I know it is not going to be that scientific, I will do my parsnips the following week and then we can compare! That's assuming mine even grow! Well theres still no sign of my sweet peas  So I'm not sure if I'll be sticking to this method! Mind you they were saved seeds so maybe they weren't any good. |
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Post by bogmyrtle on Jan 14, 2009 17:08:41 GMT 1
When did you plant those?
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Post by bogmyrtle on Jan 14, 2009 17:11:22 GMT 1
Sorry, just read the trial thread on sweet peas - there are days when if I had brains I would be dangerous.  |
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Post by bogmyrtle on Feb 1, 2009 15:30:00 GMT 1
2nd Feb 0400hrs - 3rd Feb midnight Fruit days with ascending, waxing moon
4th Feb 00.00hrs - 6th Feb 07.00hrs Root days Ascending, waxing moon
6th Feb 07.00hrs - 8th Feb 04.00 hrs Flower days 6th ascending full moon (unitl 9th at 14.49) 7th onwards descending moon.
8th Feb 04.00 hrs - 9th Feb 12.00hrs Leaf days Full but descending moon
9th Feb 12.00hrs - 12th Feb 02.00hrs Fruit days Full & descending moon
12th Feb 02.00hrs - 15th Feb 12.00hrs Root days Descending, waning moon
15th Feb 12.00hrs - 17th Feb 01.00hrs Flower days Descending, waning moon
17th Feb 01.00hrs - 19th Feb 06.30hrs Leaf days Descending, waning moon
19th Feb 06.30hrs - 21st Feb midnight Fruit days Descending moon until midnight 20th, then ascending waning moon
22nd Feb 00.00hrs - 24th Feb 07.00hrs - Root days New, ascending moon
24th Feb 07.00hrs - 25th Feb 21.00hrs Flower days New ascending moon (01.35 for new moon)
25th Feb 21.00hrs - 1st March 07.00hrs Leaf days Ascending going from new to waxing moon
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Post by leanne on Feb 9, 2009 13:53:35 GMT 1
this is really useful,. thank you. Ive been interested in this for a while, now seems a good time to give it a go! |
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Post by maggyd on Feb 9, 2009 13:56:21 GMT 1
So does that mean to-day is a good time for fruit trees  (to plant) I mean. |
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Post by emseypop on Feb 9, 2009 13:59:53 GMT 1
Yes Maggy, or sowing toms etc, obviously, you'd stick to the relevant seasons too.
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Post by leanne on Feb 9, 2009 14:00:50 GMT 1
thats how I read it maggyd
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Post by maggyd on Feb 9, 2009 14:13:39 GMT 1
I was thinking maybe I should dig my little pear tree up and plant it again as it hasnt even had blossom on it and its been in 2 years. Or do you think its a case of Pears for Heirs. |
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Post by emseypop on Feb 9, 2009 14:22:24 GMT 1
I was thinking maybe I should dig my little pear tree up and plant it again as it hasnt even had blossom on it and its been in 2 years. Or do you think its a case of Pears for Heirs. Maybe it needs a friend?  I have a small pear tree I bought when Holly was born, its blossomed twice (in 6 years) The first time, Holly presented me with the whole branch  'Here, mom I got you some flowers' Grrrrr, the second time was about 8 weeks ago, so, I picked that of quickly. : |
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Post by bogmyrtle on Feb 9, 2009 15:12:16 GMT 1
this is really useful,. thank you. Ive been interested in this for a while, now seems a good time to give it a go! It's something I have always been interested in as well Leanne, I'm sure our ancestors didn't need it written down as they were more in tune with nature, moon and sun, etc. I intend updating it every month - and hopefully, I will try to follow it although I'm not that organised really! |
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Post by maggyd on Feb 9, 2009 15:20:34 GMT 1
I was thinking maybe I should dig my little pear tree up and plant it again as it hasnt even had blossom on it and its been in 2 years. Or do you think its a case of Pears for Heirs. Maybe it needs a friend? I have a small pear tree I bought when Holly was born, its blossomed twice (in 6 years) The first time, Holly presented me with the whole branch 'Here, mom I got you some flowers' Grrrrr, the second time was about 8 weeks ago, so, I picked that of quickly. : We do have another one Em but they are both the same neither have flowered!! so It doesnt matter as there is nothing to cross pollinate. |
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Post by leanne on Feb 15, 2009 9:45:55 GMT 1
Pears need a partner in the same pollination group in order for pollination to take place. I believe they also take longer to begin fruiting too than apples ,I was told my young pear trees (3 yrs old) could be 5 to 8 before it fruits properly.
I have 2 different pears but both are pollination group 3 so eventually i should have fruit! (fingers crossed!)
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Post by emseypop on Feb 15, 2009 10:44:17 GMT 1
Pears need a partner in the same pollination group in order for pollination to take place. I believe they also take longer to begin fruiting too than apples ,I was told my young pear trees (3 yrs old) could be 5 to 8 before it fruits properly. I have 2 different pears but both are pollination group 3 so eventually i should have fruit! (fingers crossed!) I'll cross mine too Leanne. I only have 1 pear tree and i've lost the label, I should think its something common, I bought it from woolies before i was into gardening. I have another Pear tree coming, from my old allotment, I put that in a couple of years ago, it was a present so I want to bring it home now I no longer have time for the plot. |
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Post by bogmyrtle on Feb 24, 2009 9:39:36 GMT 1
There is a leeter in the March issue of GW commenting on Toby's results in his trial. A lady has followed this method for many years and says that there will not be a difference in the beans he planted in the greenhouse as the moon planting relates to the water table in the earth not the pots in thegreenhouse. She goes on to say that the effects can be overcome to some extent by planting out on the correct day but better results would be obtained by sowing the seeds directly into the ground on the correct day.
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So I'm not sure if I'll be sticking to this method! Mind you they were saved seeds so maybe they weren't any good.
I have a small pear tree I bought when Holly was born, its blossomed twice (in 6 years) The first time, Holly presented me with the whole branch 
'Here, mom I got you some flowers' Grrrrr, the second time was about 8 weeks ago, so, I picked that of quickly. :